FlexSim 7 Beta

Hi guys!
I could no find the logic builder in FlexSim 7.0. Someone may tell me where to find it?
Thanks,

I noticed that in Flexsim 7 beta Basic Conveyors can be stopped in usual way but cannot be resumed.
The same bug is present in Flexsim 6 and (it seems to me) in Flexsim 5 too.

In attachment the model I used for this simple test: a couple of user events should stop the BC at time 10 (it works) and resume it at time 15 (it prints an error message in system console and leave the BC stopped).

I hope it could be useful

Regards
Luciano Cavallero

Luciano, it also looks like a version6 'fix' or workaround (attached - just for item kinematics) doesn't work in version 7 - gives a clock overflow.

Does it need the Basicconveyor's stopObject()/resumeObject() to be implemented as it looks like it's inheriting from the standard conveyor (as with v6)?

Originally Posted by mefhsmflexsimbr

I could no find the logic builder in FlexSim 7.0. Someone may tell me where to find it?

In version 7 we decided to remove the logic builder for the following reasons:
1. The logic builder was always meant as a "stepping-stone" into writing code, to help people to learn how to write logic. Compared with writing code directly it was tedious. We felt that the new code-helping features included in version 7 like the sampler button and the Library code drag-drop sufficiently replaced the logic builder as a learning tool, while simultaneously supplementing the standard coding environment instead of supplanting it with a completely different UI.
2. From our interactions with users it was seldom used.
3. It had significant problems working with comments and markup.

Hi Anthony and Phil,

I just find a debugger problem. I have the code below in my trigger.

treenode current = ownerobject(c);
switch(msgparam(1))
{
case 1:
command1();
senddelayedmessage(current, 1, NULL, 2);
break;
case 2:
command2();
senddelayedmessage(current, 1, NULL, 3);
break;
case 3:
command3();
break;
}

I put a debug point at line command1(); I step, hit this point and click "step into". In function command1(), I only have two lines of code. I just click "next line" to go ahead until this function finished. After this function finish, I could expect to go back to my previous function above. But it actually not.

See the attached model.

Thanks,
Hao

Hello,

I want to update my modules to Flexsim 7 (32bit version), but because I was warned that a lot has changed, I started with de module skd instruction. I updated the module sdk before starting the instruction.

First error I had, was after I had added My Cool Pickoption and saved the pristine state. When I opened flexsim again, I got a system error. (see image below). I just started building a model anyhow and it didn't seem to affect this, but I haven't investigated the error or the consequences it could have.

Second I tried to create a dll project and I got some error about not being able to find the attributes_table.h and when I checked the repository, the file seems to have been removed, but not all references to it. VS stops loading the files after attributes_table.h, so de flexsimcontent directory contains only 4 files, preventing it from building correctly.

After I manually add all the other files to the flexsimcontent, I am able to build the dll. I added the beginOffset function and added a myTE object to the libray and everything seems to be working well. After saving the pristine state again, closing and opening Flexsim I get another system error. But ignoring it also doesn't have a severe effect, but again I only build a simple model and did nothing further.

Esther

I just noticed an issue with the animation editor.
A similar issue was present in version 6 but I thought it was worth pointing out.

If you rename a component of the animated object, the animation still plays correctly (unlike in v6) but the keyframes are no longer visible in the editor for that component or its children.

To reproduce : create an operator, open the animation editor, rename the Chest to something else.
The new name is displayed correctly in the keyframe editor, but all the keyframes are gone for the Chest and all its children (neck, arms) and no new keyframes can be created for these components.

Hi,

Flexsim 7 don't recognize two graphics cards:
- nVIDIA GetForce GTX 555
- ATI FirePro M8900

Flexsim 7 show me that is using OpenGL: GDI Generic, Microsoft Corporation 1.1.0.

On the other side recognize an old nVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/GTX+

All graphics card are installed on machines with Windows 8 64bit / Flexsim 7 64bit.

Any suggestion?
Regards,

Luciano

I get a docked window paradigm problem. For example, I can repeat it by the following steps:

1. I create a new model, drag a source into model.
2. Double click source, go to tab triggers, open OnReset trigger and show it into code editor. But do not docked code editor to anywhere.
3. Save model, close FlexSim.
4. Reopen the model, suspenddraw(0) to show 3D view.
5. Right now, if you want to dock this code editor to somewhere, the docked window paradigm will not work anymore.

Hello,
Hello Hao,

I can prove the same behaviour with the not docked reset-trigger and free floating code window.

Originally Posted by Hao Zhou

I get a docked window paradigm problem. For example, I can repeat it by the following steps:
[...]

The DockingGUI stays active in the active views, even if the floating reset trigger code window is closed. I can reopen the dockingGUI again from the view tree. If I destroy the dockingGUI object, the standard behaviour comes back.
If I dock a floating trigger code window to any border and reopen the model, the problem does not occur. Flexsim works normally.

Jörg

Originally Posted by Esther Bennett

Second I tried to create a dll project and I got some error about not being able to find the attributes_table.h and when I checked the repository, the file seems to have been removed, but not all references to it. VS stops loading the files after attributes_table.h, so de flexsimcontent directory contains only 4 files, preventing it from building correctly.

The references to attributes_table.h are in the following files:
- /FlexsimModuleDLLWizard/Templates/1033/FlexsimContentHeaders.inf
- /FlexsimModuleDLLWizard/Templates/1033/flexsimcontent/objectdatatype.h

If you remove those references the wizards works.


But there are another issues with the ConfigureWizards.bat. If you have a German version of OS, the path in those files aren't correct:

FOR /F "usebackq skip=2 tokens=1-3" %%A IN (`REG QUERY %docKeyName% /v %docValueName%`) DO (
     SET ValueName=%%A
     SET ValueType=%%B
-    SET documentsDir=%%C
 )

The variable documentsDir gets a string "D:\Daten\Eigene" instead of the correct "D:\Daten\Eigene Dokumente".

SET classCpyDir=%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\VCAddClass_WDExpress

The part "%ProgramFiles(x86)%" isn't correct for a German version. It should be "%Program Files(x86)%". It's in 4 places.

Hi,

The Transporter's behavior on a Network is weird: his rotation jumps at the edge of a curve:



A sample model is attached.

In FlexSim 6, connections with a network had a color code:

• a blue line showed a connection between a network node and a fixed resource
• a red line showed a connection between a task executer and a network node

Why is this color code no more used in FlexSim 7 ? I think that was quite useful to enhance the readability of a network.

I agree with Clair, I think many would miss the red and blue connection colors.

1. It seems that a TE considers the linear distance from NN to NN to calculate the travel speed along curved path, so the TE will travel faster than it should on a curve. I did not see the rotation jump that Clair wrote about.

2. I can't open a model properly. I tried Clair's model, and I also saved a small test model I built. All I see upon open is a solid gray view (no model environment). Note that I was in evaluation mode. Interesting that time progressed when I pressed Run so I guess the model is there but I just can't get a view to it.

3. I had trouble when adding spline points to a curved path. Once I 'X' clicked one of the existing spline points, I stayed permanently in 'X' click mode. Which means when I went to adjust the position of the point I just created, another point was added, and so on.

4. 'R' create-connect only works if you click on the model view first to make the view active before you click on the first location. In v6 you can click on the library object, then immediately hold R and click on the first desired model location to start a chain (without having to click on the model view to make it active first). This will frustrate people in network node training.

5. When you click on shadow view, a new view opens... why wouldn't you ensure shadow mode is enabled at the same time? That's going to catch a lot of people. BTW, the Rack looks amazing in shadow mode! Great work.

Hello Kris,

to 2. ...
When you see the gray view, open a script window and click in the model view. That is working naturally only with a license.

Jörg

In preparation for the full release of FlexSim 7, we've been creating some "feature preview" videos covering some of the new elements found in this latest version of FlexSim. These videos won't cover everything in Phil's release notes, but if you don't have the time (or effort) to read, they'll give you a good overview of what's new. This first one covers some of the new interface elements in FlexSim 7.

Hello,

for some reason all my models when opening in V7 don't show the background graphics (.jpg), its just grey. This applies for models converting from V6, even when re-loading the model background and also for all new models. I have Nvidia graphics card and when opening in V6 everything works fine. Anyone else having the same issue? I love user interface of V7, but without model background displayed I cannot use it yet...

Thanks, Kat

Thanks everyone for all of your feedback. I especially appreciate that many of you have created simple models or step-by-step guidelines for re-creating the problems. It makes it really easy for us to reproduce and fix the issues. So thanks!

Some questions:
Esther - It looks like the first exception you're getting is caused by trying to load the recent models list into the start page, which shouldn't be related to modules. If you're still getting that issue when you start up, could you send me your prefs.t file at C:\Users\#YourUser#\AppData\Flexsim\Flexsim7\prefs .t?

Kris - your items 1, 3, and 4 I couldn't replicate. On 1, could you send me a model that you think isn't interpreting spline lengths properly? For 3 and 4, I wonder if it's the same issue we couldn't figure out back a while ago. Is anyone else having the same issues as Kris?

Regards,
Anthony Johnson

Esther,
I just pushed the fixes to the attributes_table.h references. I couldn't replicate the other errors you were getting on startup with the module dll. Could you try doing it with the latest module sdk and see if you get the same errors?

Hi,

FlexSim 7 is looking great.
I found an error in the Dashboard which doesn't happen to all the graphic types.
When using VisualTool as a container and copying it, the objects inside the VisualTool have the same name but not the same "path", which usually never causes problems. However, with some of the graphic types (content vs time and output per hour) an error appears because the objects have the same name. This error doesn't appear in the state bar for example. I’m attaching a simple model with this error and a screenshot of it.

After looking into it, the error also occurs in FlexSim 6.

Hope you can fix it for FlexSim 7! Or how could I get around without having to rename the objects inside the copied VisualTools.
Thanks a lot!

Hello Anthony,

Thanks for your answers, I will have to have to test later, because after installing the flexsim 7 beta ( or actually I think uninstalling the distributors beta) I had problems with my modules in version 6. So I had to restore to a point before I uninstalled the previous beta version. Any suggestions on that?

I did test the module wizard and that works fine now.

Esther